This guy built a Hotel-booking platform in 2 days, after Mark Essien challenged him

ekemini · May 1, 2016, 9:45am

dojoVader:

Yes WordPress is Crapress and i stand by it, now I don’t attack people for using Wordpress, because if i were to run a blog, WordPress is the go to platform i’d go with but anything other than a blog: Am sorry I wouldn’t dare, CNN is heavily centered around Content and Posts which is where WordPress shines, but an Hotel application built on WordPress means building your logic around Wordpress, which is heavily centered around Post,Pages and Taxonomy which are all geared towards Post, Blog like Contents. Doing this same application in Laravel, Yii2, or even Go will save you time as you focus on the logic, I maintained a Wordpress site for 3 years and literally dug deep and mehn i was thinking to myself, why are we doing this ?

I Employ you to do this to research on the following:

Autoloader

PHP has evolved and has what we call an autoloaders, this eliminates the need of manually including files, let me take you to the days of Zend Framework 1, It was awesome except Zend 1 loaded so many components you never needed, and this mean taking up resources and not even using the loaded files, No serious application today ignores PSR-4 CakePHP 3 just supported, Laravel has it, Yii1 had an autloader but now Yii2 abides by it, I could go on,but in 2016 where does Wordpress stand in the issue of PSR-4. Nothing Wordpress doesn’t support it out of the box only Hacks, Wordpress loads tons of shit that you will never use. It drove my Java friend mad when he ran a WP instance on DigitalOcean. You use in Laravel when a class is instantiated it’s at that moment the autoloader fires and hits up composer or whatever SPL loader you register to find the file and uses it.

I don’t want to litter this post with lengthy points but to summarize things, yes the users don’t care, however as the developer you should care about the platform, trust me every modern cms outperforms Wordpress in terms of resources and footprint, and ease of development. You are not gonna just wing it by installing plugins and widgets and calling it a day, People just don’t hate WordPress for no reason.

I have never belittled anyone over using Crapress i only ask why they choose to suffer themselves.

WordPress as a Framework — SitePoint

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-WordPress-so-bad-And-are-there-any-real-alternatives

Really PW is really clean and saner than WP, my site was built in WP i customized the shit out of it and it was just frustrating, Plugins never work the same way you’d expect them, it kept using too much resources, i moved to ImpressPages i even contributed themes and plugins and migrated contents from WordPress to ImpressPages but it wasn’t good enough till i jumped on Processwire, the backend makes much more sense than Wordpress, assisted a developer in writing a migration plugin to bring Wordpress.xml export into it and it was just easy as hell.

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The Processwire API is just clean as fuck, though we (community) had to explain why it needed to have PSR-4 Support and composer but it’s getting there.

Managing a content in Processwire is easy, you create a field for a Page and specify the input type and it gets exposed to the template like this

$page->title

unlike WP functions, no one wants to code everyone wants to slap a themeforest template and call it a startup however i have seen some good devs who have made WordPress work for them i salute them, such bravery for masochism

I said, e don do oooooooooooo… This is not benefitial. I think we’ve all made our points. Thank you.

dojoVader · May 1, 2016, 9:48am

It’s not just for you, it’s for anyone interested, this is not an attack o, just explaining my POV obviously someone can counter me and i’d be eager to hear the points and change my facts if needed

ekemini · May 1, 2016, 9:48am

You have a valid point - I don’t dispute. But believe me, I’ve seen and experienced what php can do and with php7… I rest my case.

Chukwuka_Steve · May 2, 2016, 9:00am

Why brag about being a developer when you are not getting the problems solved like the designers using WP

Chukwuka_Steve · May 2, 2016, 9:10am

Nwanne, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHO IS KILLING IT

MrASulaiman · May 2, 2016, 11:12am

Won’t be fair to live you hanging.

HINT: hotels.ng is solving a problem yeah?
So are we talking Visual or Figures!

easibor · May 2, 2016, 5:28pm

Its just amazing when you think about the fact that all this rant about technical stuffs going back and forth is just because a guy decided to build a travel website in 2 days…

What happened to launching with a MVP… I am just wondering how many companies out there actually launched with the best possible technology…

Also, I am pretty sure that if an angel investor had immediately responded to him, this discussion would have taken a different direction all together…

87_chuks · May 2, 2016, 6:11pm

There’s a reason for everything!

daviruz · May 3, 2016, 5:14am

Quick one, in the world of CMS would you recommend Joomla instead even though just like wordpress one would rely on plugins and themes?

dojoVader · May 3, 2016, 10:24am

Personally i don’t use Joomla because I don’t like the code convention JControllerRemiController and stuff like that however my last experience with it is 1.5.

So it depends are you asking as a user or as a developer who intends to write custom modules ?

If as a user, use any platform that works for you that will enable you manage content easily, as a developer I won’t recommend Joomla.

Note: Personal Opinion

ngosayogie · May 7, 2016, 3:26pm

Lol…I also feel he’s trolling around. If he’s not, then I think he’s in for some rude awakening from his lofty dreams. Starting a business as a result of a challenge is sort of ludicrous in my own opinion.

StephenAfamO · September 22, 2016, 9:58pm

It has been resurrected!!!

SkweiRd · September 23, 2016, 5:47am

@StephenAfamO ???

akinara · September 23, 2016, 4:32pm

I think they’re planning something else with the domain. Should be interesting. But someone should tell the guy or whoever is now in charge of design to throw some shadow or something behind the hero text. It’s a pain to read.

simplemtray · September 23, 2016, 5:08pm

Funny, I guess that’s your intention… Search Google for websites built with wordpress. See some - TechGyst , TechCrunch , SonyMusic , Bata , Beyonce , , Tell me what you think.

xolubi · September 23, 2016, 7:49pm

If you kept scrolling, you’d have found this

Also, quantity doesn’t always translate to validation. An extreme analogy would be there are probably more machines still running Windows XP/7 in the world today than Windows 10. And within enterprises and fortune 500 companies (i.e. machines constantly making money or directly responsible for it). I don’t suppose that translates into what your argument would assume.

Truth is, you can go ahead and do whatever you want to do with Wordpress. I don’t think anyone is stopping you. Coming out guns blazing when anybody points out that something could have been done efficiently outside of Wordpress means you haven’t taken time to appreciate the limitations of your tool, and quite frankly screams ignorance.

And while we are on the subject of anecdotes, you should know that even in the media world, “new media” organizations such as Vox Media, Buzzfeed, etc are able to maintain their dominance by properly bending technology to their will with their own custom CMSs. Chorus for Vox, and whatchamacallit for BuzzFeed - which helps them do interesting stuff like this