Tolu was at a pool party so she has to leave partway through the episode. As a side note, someone please invite me to a pool party
We talked about Netflix in Nigeria and what it means for Iroko TV. We speculated about what it took for Netflix to launch internationally in regards to show licensing. I made a prediction about the future of Netflix-created shows too.
Uberâs recent issues in the Nigerian market came up. What causes the charges shown in the all to be different from what your bank charges? Whatâs with the cash payment for trips? How do they get their money after we pay cash?
We rounded up with a conversation about Men in Tech. Men on Radar, initially, but the points made were more widely applicable than our community here.
Free tip from the show: consider the setting before flirting. Virtually no female comes on Radar to find a date so your advanced are most likely unwanted. Radar isnât going to be Tinder for Techies, so swipe right elsewhere.
The discussion before âyour talk about women in techâ was interesting but the rest for me was offensive as you deliberately overlooked the fact that I (and maybe some others) was joking. The fact that you both laughed to the post tells a lot. You do not get to help people decide the way a conversation goes, especially in situations where there isnât a clear topic and maybe you need to chill a bit and not read too much meaning off a post without clearly understanding context. I do not appreciate being one of the examples you use when you tell people how not to discuss online when you are horny.
Policing like this could prevent people from bothering to post at all.
Ogbeni if you want the babe come and ⊠wait ⊠donât come.
All joking aside âŠ
My default attitude to most things is to assume the best intentions. While that works well for me, we canât really force that on others. Especially if the others are the ones who may be uncomfortable.
Just because I can take a joke (or assume one had been made) doesnât mean everyone else can.
Some women arenât comfortable with these things and itâs safest to assume ALL women arenât til you get to know them better.
I hope it didnât come across as picking on you. Itâs an issue in the tech industry world wide, so this was just my 2 cents on the matter with an example at hand.
If you believe you have the responsibility to be a moral watchdog since CRUDCAST is becoming popular, then you should take time to ask people about their intentions before you draw conclusions. At least, get some context and not do or say things that could cast a negative light upon ones image.
I totally understand the issues concerning women in tech, but it is wrong to assume all jokes are meant to be offensive by default. If it were so, I do not think comedians would have an industry.
The show isnât getting popular but you can help us by sharing it on Facebook, Twitter, Nairaland, Hacker News, Reddit and any other places you may hang out in
Moral watchdog ke? This is just my personal feelings on the matter. In previous episodes every member has confessed to some immoral behavior. We swear pretty often and we donât respect our elders. Weâre the last people to be considered beacons of morality.
This isnât tech journalism either so we have no obligation to get every side of every subject of discussion. On the other hand, if you do wanna talk about it more weâll be really glad to have you on the show.
Just to remove any doubt, that thread went to hell and back Multiple times. Loads of people tried to save it (inc. you at some point), but still doesnât excuse the level of ignorance on display.
Are you honestly saying you didnât see anything wrong?
And to TC, I know this has been mentioned before, but definitely need to think more of the tools and techniques to better moderate. I appreciate that Bankole was on the thread early to instill sanity, Iâm not sure it was enough or adequate.
Well done @xolubi and @akamaozu! Very important topic and it was a shame that Uzoâs internet went down, so more shaming could have been done!
Do not get me wrong. I never stated that the thread did not go wrong. But as the person who set precedence for what as become an example of wrong doing and thus termed offensive to women in tech, I am forced to disassociate myself from opinions that are contrary to what I had in mind.
The next step is for you to realise that you canât make statements like below:
Why? Because it doesnât help your reputation (which it appears youâre rightly concerned about) for 2 reasons:
âJokingâ is never an excuse for any intolerable behaviour. Itâs lame. Donât use it and expect that it counts.
âSome others were jokingâ is even worse for you to say. As youâre also excusing other peopleâs behaviour. And in fact vouching for them. If you ask @Godmode and @EjikemeLucky, they would say they were joking as well on that thread. Is that right guys?
Finally, I donât think you were out of line on the thread, so donât take this personal. There are others who should hang their heads in shame, but not you.
Almost forgot but @xolubi and @akamaozu just wanted to clarify one error I believe you both made when you were discussing competition (or the lack of). You arrived at the conclusion by focusing on the companies while neglecting to consider the all important factor - the customerâs perspective.
Irrespective of the fact that Irokotv or Netflix might appeal to different taste, all customers have only 24hrs in a day. Customers will roughly have 5-6 hrs of viewing daily. A customer watching IrokoTv canât watch Netflix at the same time. In the customers eyes, what theyâre competing for is not genre but time.
Following from 1. above, thereâs even a greater point that the market is not yet developed. Remember that most Nigerians have not heard of either Iroko nor Netflix, so this stage is even more important for winning the mind share of future customers, which is at stake.
When you look at this from a customerâs perspective ( ignoring product differences in terms of recommendations, content, pricing,etc), itâs strange to reach the conclusion that theyâre not in competition.
Okay⊠so they are in a little bit of competition. Going from the customerâs perspective as you have outlined, every product is in competition with every other product across category boundaries; since I canât be at a fancy burger restaurant, watch Netflix using the 55" TV I just bought from Samsung, and listen to Apple Music using the dope headphones I copped from Sennheiserâs website. All at the same time.
Actually, it might seem farfetch, but there are quite a few articles and research agreeing exactly with the same thing youâve described.
A good example that you can possibly relate to comparing the wait in a banking hall, to the wait in an hospitalâs waiting room. They donât offer the same service but naturally people compare.
If you switch over to tech, when you have a bad UX from a app, donât you instantly close it down while mentally comparing to some totally unrelated app?
Talking of tech, below by Ben Evans is an excellent read to see the level of competition by the big Co. (Google, Apple & FB) to gain access to our mobile. Irrespective that they offer the same product.
âMost of them, it turned out, bought [the milkshake] to do a similar job,â he writes. âThey faced a long, boring commute and needed something to keep that extra hand busy and to make the commute more interesting. They werenât yet hungry, but knew that theyâd be hungry by 10 a.m.; they wanted to consume something now that would stave off hunger until noon. And they faced constraints: They were in a hurry, they were wearing work clothes, and they had (at most) one free hand.â
The milkshake was hired in lieu of a bagel or doughnut because it was relatively tidy and appetite-quenching, and because trying to suck a thick liquid through a thin straw gave customers something to do with their boring commute.
BTW, whereâs @Uduak? He seems to always like all these âjokesâ as well. And now heâs no where to be found.
So @Uduak when you go to other threads and drop gems like below in respect of another lady, just note that youâre either a serial âjokerâ or serial âstalkerâ. It has to be one or the other.
Also I understand that your âboysâ may appreciate your sense of humour. They might even roll on the ground at such display of wit. But thatâs no excuse. Donât use Radar as a platform to scale your ignorance and ineptitude.Keep your âjokesâ to your inner circle.
This was a good episode. Lots of insights. Liked everything up until you guys started mimicking the users and their âvoicesâ of the posts- it just sounded worrisome/lame.
But well done guys. Episode 12 and counting. Just realised youâre in double figures.
