What, exactly, is an Africa-focused Andela?

It will be difficult to ask Local companies to compete with international companies. But there is a way out. Local companies should learn to compromise on certain things. The biggest issue with local companies is poor management. Sometimes international companies allow you to work remote so they can pay less. Or ask for 20hrs a week from developers so they can pay less. No good developer like to leave a project incomplete. So when employer pay for 20 hrs/week, trust me, the developer will work more than that hours. So why are local companies not using the same idea. They demand you are always in office. They can contract someone far away in India but allow someone in same state with the company to be remote, they refuse.

Most times it is not about the money. Local companies is full of top staff with Nigerian mentality. A developer is delivering good work but a stupid manager is there giving him query for not coming to office as early as 8am. Managing developers require a set skills and mindset that many local companies do not have. What you find there are mostly people trying to show superiority.

Project Scope: If you have ever worked with a local company, what you must have noticed is the erratic change in project. Planning is very bad. They start project with no clear idea of what they want.

Ridiculous expectation: Local companies will ask you to build Facebook in two weeks. I’m not exaggerating. You pay so cheap and you want the developer to spend day and night working.

People skills: You won’t believe what most international companies do to keep developers happy. It is in this country that an entrepreneur think/believe he/she is doing developers a favour. Tech companies out there value developers so much and they show it. It is not the same here. Developers need be valued.

Money is not biggest issue here. Developers have peace of mind when working for international client vs working for a local client. Local companies have to address these issues first

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Lol I mean per month and I will gladly hire 4 people if they are willing to put in the work for it.

250k per month is really generous.

Exactly @Jimi Nigerian forget that we as a nation have lot of trust issues going on. The competition out there is so high that even when I post jobs on site like Upwork for $500 I don’t even see Nigerian developers as a recommended choice to pick from. Rather I see Indians, Eastern European what does this tells me. That Nigerian developers don’t have good ratings on these sites.

Good rating on freelance website mean

  1. Lots of job
  2. Good feedback
  3. Solid portfolio

Before anyone tell me about getting paid world class money then you better have word class projects to show as an example of your capabilities when bidding on the job.

It’s better to do 3 wordpress jobs in a month for $250 each than waiting for $2000 project to come through.

The reason people hire freelance developer is to save cost and for full time it’s save cost and control over the 8 hours a day because if you can’t develop a substantial amount of work in 8 hours then I wonder how world class the developer is.

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Exactly In Nigeria today if a man tell his mama that he has a job to do from home and get N250,000 per month ha na thanksgiving be that

N250,000 Ɨ 12 = N3,000,000 and if the company is good you get bonus and you telling me that is not a generous offer

You say WHAT!

The problem I have with the term ā€œdeveloperā€ in almost all its usage on this platform is that it is not ranked. So there’s nothing like a junior developer or a senior developer? Every so called ā€œdeveloperā€ in Nigeria wants to earn a high income even the ones that can only write HTML/CSS! Ask them what they’ve built they will show you a WordPress site.

How many entry level jobs in Nigeria actually pay N250,000 per month? And why do we compare our salaries with other countries including developed countries? Do you know how much, say a medical doctor, in Nigeria earns compared to his/her foreign counterparts?

Income follows skill and level of experience, adjusted for the local economy you are working in.

In a blog like this, the easiest way to spot someone you should not work with or hire is the one who is always talking (almost complaining) about salaries and income.

Also, I suggest we have an objective way of ranking the level of skills and experience of developers.

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Hi,
I am interested @jamesorior

If my work is worth N250k per month, it is not a generous offer, I am been paid the worth of my work.

It will be wrong if you feel you are being generous by paying someone a certain amount of money for his/her work. I will take that to mean that the work been done is not worth that amount, but you just want to pay that much because you are a good man.

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This guy you funny self tell me what will you show employer in 24 months to prove your skills is worth more money :slight_smile:

This guy you funny self tell me what will you show employer in 24 months to prove your skills is worth more money :slight_smile:

This cracked me up :sweat_smile: :laughing:

This is very subjective/ relative.
Student population isn’t the same in both institutions, and I’m sure its easier for a Private school to include an activity or a course into their curriculum than a public institution.

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Hard to argue with someone that thinks that good software development is all about taking WordPress jobs on freelancing websites.

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Millions of website is powered by WordPress.

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Millions of website is powered by WordPress

Well I’m surprised not a lot of people on this thread get his point, what he means is that you start from somewhere, I don’t expect a good Dev to have not done small projects before self.
He’s just trying to say Nigerians want the money too fast , according to what I understand and again, our companies can only pay subjective to how much they are making .
I can’t start a local tech company today and be paying my devs averagely 500k monthly because I want them to feel good or because I feel they are the best ,I’m not saying devs are not worth more than that generally but this is Nigeria,

I hear of Nigerians Abroad with CCNP earning about $80/hr , but how much do u think average CCNP holders earn in Nigeria? I think it’s averagely 200-350k excluding oil and gas. Does that mean that other Nigerian companies shud pay their network engineers around $80 per hour? .if we understand that, we won’t be blaming our companies, it’s the Nigerian market. Most times many people in Nigeria are underemployed

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You talk sense

I’m laughing hard!

However, the problem with the training centre is 'who will pay for it?". It’s not cheap to train developers. And charging the appropriate fee might exclude the best talents you really needed in the programme. That is the conundrum that Andela model seems to be solving.

There are no easy answers here. But its good that we are chewing it…

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