lol its not a logical “Hate” its more of a personal think for me, i am not a fan of restrictions and any thing / framework that forces me to do things a certain way is a no no for me hence my dislike of wordpress P.S my [quote=“codegidi, post:18, topic:8098”]
well they are not.
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Was me trying to be a troll 
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Yes i agree, there are a few people who do understand how it works and can be called genuine developers but the majority of “Wordpress developers” cant even code. Basically wordpress is suffering from the same discrimination that PHP suffers from when the vast majority of their users spoil the reputation for the better minority.
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Somehow, you would usually still work with a framework.
Maybe it’s laravel
or Yii.
Except you tell me you code EVERYTHING from scratch
I love WordPress. Why?
I started developing because of WordPress.
Now I know how to do a lot more. But if I did not want to just modify that plugin just a little bit, I would not be writing any code.
WordPress for many is a gateway drug and when you realise the amount of effort making a custom theme or plugin from scratch will take, you may want to reconsider.
For a lot of things, WordPress can be all you need.
Take a moment to actually make a plugin or theme for WordPress before you critisise it. I have found that most times our opinions can change drastically when we experience something.
Like the guys offering all the perfect hindsight on Showroom.ng
Or the people that judge the life of celebrities.
Take the time out to experience something before you have opinions about it.
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Yii, Laravel, Codeignither, ROR are DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORKS, Wordpress is a CMS engine there are totally two very very very different things.
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Yes. True.
My mistake.
But you have to understand that working within a “system” doesn’t make you any less of a developer
I never said it does, i just don’t like it, personal preferences 
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Oh okay… since it’s a personal thing.
No worries. Everyone has their own preferences
And that’s how we ignore Dangote’s bank
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@Ari_Biton don’t tell me you’re new on radar. Lead-points change in a blink here. lol.
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But I thought this thread was about Fintech Bank?
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See me see wahala. I shouldn’t have mentioned the wordpress bit o
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Actually, you can open an account by submitting a form right on the Personal Banking page - http://suntrustng.com/personal-banking/ - It is a typical verbose form you would fill at an actual bank. The banking industry pioneered the use of EV SSL and this bank has none, not even basic HTTPS.
Even if the website wasn’t collect personal information, the presence and early association with an EV SSL certificate helps you realize quickly when someone malicious is trying to collect information from you with a convincing replica of the bank’s website.
GTBank always had EV SSL on their main website. The current misconfiguration shouldn’t be used as an example of good practices but they should rather be called out on it. Below is a shot of the homepage throwing a bunch of rather embarrassing errors.
Also, I believe @ekemini was asking a rather innocent question regarding the fact that a “fintech” bank uses Wordpress. Basically, there is no visible application to warrant it being called a fintech bank at this stage. The website is typical Nigerian bank content, the account opening forms are boring and appear to not do anything besides submit like a “contact us” form, and the internet banking page unceremoniously says coming soon.
That said, your response was unnecessarily angry and I’m surprised that many people agreed with you that it is okay for a bank website, not to talk of an online-only bank’s website to not have HTTPS.
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So it’s just semantics that differentiate them then? Since they’re offering the same services via the same channels
It’s more than semantics if you peep through the do’s & dont’s handed down by the CBN.
The guidelines and licenses are a bit different for each, although banks are permitted to be mobile money operators.
Here’s the framework for the mobile money operators from the CBN website.
Wasn’t thorough in my checking, I think I leapt before I looked well.
I wouldn’t say it was totally innocent cos the way it was bluntly pointed out suggests otherwise.
If you look through the series of illustrations I cited, they are basically the marketing or corporate site of these banks. So myself with some folks think it isn’t that bad to have the corporate site of a bank on WordPress platform cos even bigger players do it (Diamond Bank).
While that does not justify it, it is also a pointer to the fact that if used well it may lead to more productivity at lesser incurring expenses.
Segun Sobulo while designing AppsWorkforce stopped halfway and asked us (interns at the time) to design the corporate site using Google sites. It begged the question why, and his answer was “if I am unavailable and I need you to make edits”. Of course, the application page of AppsWorkforce was designed using Java but the about page, Google sites. (Sorry for digressing)
Back to the HTTPS thing, you are quite correct that they should have one but what can we say, we are in Nigeria now. I think this has to do with their developer since he is most likely just a WordPress theme installer turned developer.
Even the lions do not have one at the moment GTbank and Diamond.
In as much as it is required, I think no harm done yet but they should try to get one (just my 1 kobo). But one common thing is that all of their web application has its SSL certificate.
This really has nothing to do with the WordPress part, it is just based on their developer’s (or their) standard.
Not actually I guess, was just trying back my answer with real life examples.
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I can’t actually see any comment where someone actually supported the claim, guess the support just ended at the WordPress part lol.
Just like I pointed earlier, security wise, I see nothing wrong with a corporate website having no SSL certificate even though it is quite necessary. Because I am sure that when they are linking out to their web apps, there has to be HTTPS.
Quick question @xolubi hope this would not act against the application I plan on writing to learn at Paystack?
See what I said earlier which is still a valid response to this…
Unfortunately, the account opening form where you already submit rather personal details doesn’t have SSL so your assumption of the savviness is wrong. We need to collectively stop supporting or excusing bad practices if we are to achieve great things as an ecosystem.
I see Atom Bank’s website or Monzo’s and get inspired. I see SunTrust’s and its just yet another traditional Nigerian bank’s website (a standard by which you’ve defended them). In that case, what exactly is FinTech about their offerings and why is this worth celebrating? Jaiz bank has a handful of branches nationwide, no SSL on their corporate homepage, and an online portal that actually works which already makes them more Fintech than SunTrust. Just saying.
P.S. What does any of this have to do with you personally or Paystack? 
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After all the PR, its a Bank they are building, let them keep deceiving their-self, they are still rooted in a traditional way of things because i see no reason they cant build from scratch, reading NIBSS Report on fraud for 2015/2016 paints a very frightening picture on Security on online payment, ATM,POS etc and if this guys cant even get basics right how do they now want to grow user adoption minus Dangotes money eh?
Small play somebody cannot play with you ni… 
A FinTech bank that just launched with all the fanfare and hullabaloo and I have to wait before using its internet banking service?!?!! Would have thought one of the very first things they would have made available - if you claim to be pushing the using of technology in banking. Internet banking by the way is no longer a competitive advantage, its now simply an industry threshold requirement pure and simple.
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